Tuesday, May 30, 2006

Women's Liberation

If you ask me if women’s liberation has been achieved in India, I would say, "there is a long way to go". It might seem that I am exaggerating things. But, it is not so. People have a wrong notion about "women’s liberation". Many think that it is just about girls getting educated and going out to work. Isn’t liberation a thing related to the "mindset" rather than "external" things? Surely, you would immediately expect me to elaborate on what I mean by "mindset" and "external". Hope what follows – starting from the next paragraph will make it clear. Before you further proceed, you have to understand that whatever I write here is having the "majority" of the Indian [or Tamilnadu - in particular] women/girls in mind. There are always exceptions and I have met them myself. But they are one in a million or so.

Education is one of the first steps towards liberation. Yet girls do not take that seriously. If it is not so, why is it that just three girls were there in the top 100 in Engineering rank list in my batch? Is it that girls were not given good education or is it that they did not have talent? It is merely because girls still think that there is no actual need for them to get educated. There are very few girls who think beyond getting graduated.

In India, women (and men too) still believe that it is a man’s job to run a family. When it comes to marriage, people look at the "salary" of the boy [and if he works in the US, preference is given] and "beauty" of the girl. Rarely does a girl marry a boy who gets a pay less than her (The reason is obvious: A boy wants his wife to be less brilliant than him… and they obviously think that salary is a measure of brilliance though it is not so!). As my classmate Venkataprasad pointed out in one of his posts, most of the Indian marriages leave one of the couples to remain unsatisfied with their marriage. I believe it is just because Indians still see "salary" and "beauty" as the main factors for marriage. Further, still girls give dowry on marriage, don’t ask their husband to help them in the kitchen, resign their job after marriage, rarely go abroad for higher studies and so on. I have observed that except for those who work in software companies, mostly girls limit their communication to a very few outside their family circle. Now, after all this, how could I say that women are "liberated"?

Further, girls want to prove that they are equal to boys in all aspects and they think that that is what is meant by "liberation". I have many a time wondered if girls wear jeans, t-shirts and pants just to have a satisfaction that they are equal to men in all aspects. Though they claim that they wear it just for comfort, I suspect if it is true. The reason is that a jean is a dress that is uncomfortable for anyone in Indian environment. It will suit only people in cold countries. Often people when speaking on women’s liberation compare men and women. They show Mother Teresa, Marie Curie, Indira Gandhi, Arundhathi Roy, Kiran Bedi and several other women as examples. Firstly, I don’t see any point in comparing men and women. That has nothing to do with women’s liberation. Men and women have different capabilities. By comparing themselves with men, women are achieving things lesser than what they actually can! Secondly, till the time one can list the number of women who have been "liberated" it just means that there are a lot more who are not liberated.

Many a time, men hinder the progress of women. There was a group of girls – seniors – in my college. They used to do some programme every year at the cultural show. The first programme of theirs that I saw was creative and good. It was like a dance-drama [with no dialogues] and the theme was about women’s liberation. But, the boys of our so-called one of the top institutes of Tamilnadu did all that they could do to disturb the show. The reason – the programme was by girls and it was about "women’s liberation".

Though men are in many cases responsible for women not getting liberated, women too are responsible for it. They want to have all the advantages of being a woman and yet they want to be liberated also. I was shocked when I came to know that there is 33% reservation for girls in engineering colleges in Andhra. Reservations in any form do not help in progress.Why did not the women’s organizations fight against that? Where were those organizations when 33% reservation was suggested for Parliament? Why did not they oppose the concession given for girls in paying tax? I have seen elderly people wait in a long queue at a railway reservation counter just because many college girls were using the queue meant for "women and senior citizens". They could have very well used the common queue. But they wanted to take advantage of being a "woman". Then how could they dream of "liberation"?

Finally, as I end this blog, here is what I want to tell to women and men. To women I tell, "If at all you want to have liberation, change yourselves – at heart. Realize that men are not your competition. The talents and capabilities bestowed upon you are different. Utilize your potential to the maximum and you will be liberated". To men I tell, "If at all you want to see more development in the world in all fields, women are to be liberated. If still you insist on not doing that, world will always remain 50 years behind what could have been achieved".

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Blogger Unknown said...

i share your views completely...on this topic.
I do believe women are far more responsible for their lack of liberation, they like to be thumbed down by men and others.

And I do also agree that reservation isn't going to help them...eventually they get married to more educated men, sit at home and reproduce!

Well I do believe that this has a lot to do with how the mother's and other women of the family are.

If your mother works, you'll work, if your mother believes in independance, you will be independent. If a girl has seen her mother happily serving a home and sitting around enjoying the money of her father, she'll learn to do the same.

Changes start at the level of a family... we need to begin at the base.

Men should encourage women to work, and have their own lives. When Women learn to respect themselves will others respect them.


Well by the way I am an architect, adn thank you for your feedback on my blog on AIDS...

Thursday, June 01, 2006  
Blogger Venkat C said...

Hey.. to be very objective, its chaos. Any system left itself will go ino chaos.I mean entropy will keep incresing.
Any orderliness(anti-entropy) needs energy. Why am I saying this?
Its chaos out ther in India now in many fields including women'sliberation. To bring order, it needs energy to be pumped into the system. Are you ready to pump in that energy?

Sunday, June 04, 2006  
Blogger KP said...

Quote 1:
Further, still girls give dowry on marriage, don’t ask their husband to help them in the kitchen, resign their job after marriage, rarely go abroad for higher studies and so on. I have observed that except for those who work in software companies, mostly girls limit their communication to a very few outside their family circle. Now, after all this, how could I say that women are "liberated"?

Girls give dowry..!! ? really ?
They are made to give dowry..in other words . Nobody will be giving "dowry" if not asked.

Dont ask their husband to help them in the kitchen...
Kitchen is not juz a place for girls.Why cant the men should equally participate in that instead of waiting for the women to ask for their help

Resigning the job after marriage
Resigning the job after their marriage if happened in her own decision is not bad .They are going to be the life partners .If they are going to share their duties ,then its not against liberation

Rarely go abroad for higher studies
Going abroad for higher studies doesnt mean that they are liberated ..
How about local counsellors who are uneducated women and manage the whole village.I've seen people like that.They are more bolder and liberated than educated girls .

So what I want to say "Liberation" though completly in the hands of women, it need co-operation from men too.

But I wish soon the discrimation between men and women should be vanished so that words like "Women Liberation",Women rights and freedom should be forgotten .

Quote 2:

"They want to have all the advantages of being a woman and yet they want to be liberated also."

U r really jealous about Ladies queue,Ladies bus,IT reduction,reservations :) .So those who enjoy these privileges should know their places (and dont jump to get liberated)..isn't?

Ladies buses and queue - > Ladies worried about standin in the middle of huge crowd of men.Its not for them to come first in a small queue.This requires men co-operation to get rid of ladies q's and buses.

IT reduction ->Yea i agree with you..I feel its verymuch biased against men

Reservations -> This really encourages the girls in rural areas to come up and dont assume only women in cities are women (they are juz few).

Quote 3:

"If at all you want to have liberation, change yourselves – at heart. Realize that men are not your competition. The talents and capabilities bestowed upon you are different. Utilize your potential to the maximum and you will be liberated"
"

Wah wah...very true..Claps...

Wednesday, June 07, 2006  
Blogger Bharath Sattanathan said...

Hey,

Thanks for the comments and compliments.

Cheers!

Filtered by sambhar....

Wednesday, June 07, 2006  
Blogger akp said...

Hi Lavannya,
As you say, the people around someone has much influence on how they grow up... and for a girl, may be the mother has more influence on whether she is!
And, your final quote, "When Women learn to respect themselves will others respect them" says everything in a nutshell.

Saturday, June 10, 2006  
Blogger akp said...

Hi FJ,
I believe you are telling that more than just speaking, everyone has to do something... its true... I will do when the right time comes!

Saturday, June 10, 2006  
Blogger akp said...

Hi Prathiba,
I do agree with some of your points, disagree with some others and would like to clarify the rest... Here it goes...

Quote 1:
Here I was not talking about who is responsible. I was just pointing out things to conclude that women are yet to be liberated. See the last line of the same paragraph... it reads, "Now, after all this, how could I say that women are liberated?"
Anyhow, I do accept that I should have put it in a better way so that this misinterpretation did not happen. Also, I accept your point that men too should co-operate to achieve women's liberation and also that the discussion on women's liberation itself should vanish.
But there are some points I would like to tell...

1. As for your point on dowry and helping in the kitchen, I would say that some things cannot be got without pressurizing... if you wait for it to come on its own, you will never get it...

2. Resigning job on getting married... I do agree what you say... but many guys demand resignation even before talking to the girl... it is many a time not a decision taken on mutual consent... I was talking about that only...

3. I never said that going abroad for higher studies meant liberation... but what I was pointing out is that everyone thinks that the girl has to just get a "degree" because guys with good salary require their wife to be "knowlegeable but not brilliant". So, while parents are ready to send their son abroad but for daughters they dont even think about that option... If your argument is correct, then do you mean to say that girls need not be sent to school at all and yet they will stay liberated [like the bolder village women you saw :)]

Quote 2:
1. I never mentioned about buses... I do not think that it is a wrong decision to have seperate buses/train coaches for women- atleast in today's India... they can be abolished only after ensuring that women have been liberated truly.
What I pointed out was a real incident I saw at Besant Nagar reservation counter... There, there were chairs for everyone to sit... and there was a security maintaining the queue... there is no problem even if there are many people... even then there was a seperate queue for ladies... no women organisation opposed that... also, they could have had a token system instead...
Fine, I should not blame those girls standing in the queue for that... but where were the women's organisations?

2. Again for the IT reduction why no one protested?

3. About the reservation in colleges, the reservation is for "girls" and it is not for "rural girls" in particular. Do you think the girls in the cities and towns will leave any seat for those in the rural areas?
Also, I believe in "0%" reservation... It is like this... now with reservations in place, no one can ask what the government did for them. The immediate reply would be "you have xyz% of reservation". On the other hand, if there is no reservation, it means the educational institutions (schools, colleges, etc) has to be improved in all places - the last thing any polititian will think about... In India, having reservation still after over 50 yrs of independence just means that we have not improved at all!

Quote 3:
Hope the claps are meant really and not as a consolation after all the points above that... :)

I thought that girls who read this blog would mainly argue for my statetent, "I have many a time wondered if girls wear jeans, t-shirts and pants just to have a satisfaction that they are equal to men in all aspects"... but then no arguments on that... Now I wonder if my suspicion is really true!

Anyways, thanks for your long comment... it shows that you have read every word of the blog!

Saturday, June 10, 2006  
Blogger KP said...

Ok..I still want to argue..But I hate fighting on these issues..But U have taken much risk in life by sayin :p

"I have many a time wondered if girls wear jeans, t-shirts and pants just to have a satisfaction that they are equal to men in all aspects"... but then no arguments on that... Now I wonder if my suspicion is really true!


Actually I felt that point is so immature to argue..Infact I dint expect such words come from "Akp" ..such a silly point everybody takes hold starting from eve teasing to women liberation..Y guys are so jealous abt girls wearin western costumes..I wonder..Even pants are not our Indian dresses..Guys can rent it from Western people and wear it to look good..If Girls try them ,u'l think that they try to become guys..they try to show their "EQUALITY" ...huh..? So bad yaar :(

btw..y suddenly moderatin the comments?

Saturday, June 10, 2006  
Blogger Venkat C said...

Great da..soon please..
By the way, my blog is up again da..and have a new one too.
- Venkataprasad

Tuesday, June 13, 2006  
Blogger T. ilamparithi said...

i could not comprehend what u mean by liberation of women. i am very sorry.

Sunday, April 06, 2008  
Blogger Sugantha Krishnamoorthy said...

In the community of Bees, its the Queen bee who is the ruler..And it is nature that men have been made physically strong and more qualified to run the external world and women have been made flexible to take care of home..If both men and women realise this, topic of Women liberation will never realise.. Finally both of us r there in this world to make it a better place..By practising female infacticide, it is men who r the ultimate sufferers..And by spending lesser time at home and more time at office, its finally the family which is going to suffer..It is unbearable that a newborn should be left in the hands of a stranger , while women spend the whole day in the office.. These unwanted things would not have happened if men of older generation had been more considerate towards women..

Saturday, September 20, 2008  

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